what you hear from folks like patti murray, the incoming chairman woman of the budget committee in the senate is she thinks we ought to go off the cliff. that is sort of what we're dealing with right now. i hope that reasonable minds will prevail and realize that taxes are going up on everyone and we don't want that to happen. it's not good for our economy and hard-working taxpayers of this country. bill: the door appears to be cracking at least on the right when it comes to revenue, not tax rates, but tax revenue. here is peter king on that. >> president obama won, he won fair and square. we won the house, we won it fair and square. democrats still control the senate, slight edge to the democrats. bottom line it's over with, find a way to resolve it as much as possible between now and the end of the year. bill: what they are talking about again is house revenue. mitt romney campaigned on it. >> john boehner went to the white house ten days or so ago and put revenues on the table, and, again, we don't think that raising tax rates is something that is good for this economy, that will he